Insights from a former Yahoo! Community Manager
Posted on 05. Feb, 2009 by Michael Brito in Community Management
It’s no secret that Yahoo! search has been losing market share for the last 5 – 6 years to Google; and while the Yahoo! home page has always enjoyed having the “most visited web site” for the better half of the last decade, that bragging right came to an end in 2008, according to Comscore.
However, Yahoo! still has several properties with massive communities that are extremely engaged, filled with life, full of conversation and generate millions of page views each month (i.e. Groups, Answers, 360, Bix and of course their dormant social network with Mail).
I recently caught up with a previous co-worker and good friend, Jami Heldt. Jami was the former Community Manager for Yahoo! Groups. She agreed to answer some questions I had about Yahoo! and her role there.
How does Yahoo! value their community?
If I understand this question correctly, I’d have to say that Yahoo! values their community in a number of ways, but first and foremost by offering a wide variety of useful tools to stay connected to the things most important to them – be it, family, friends, news, media, information, or any number of other things.
What metrics do you use to measure the success of community management?
We didn’t have rigid “success metrics” so to speak, but we did track weekly traffic to our product blogs to gauge reach. The two key metrics tracked were Page Views (PVs) and Unique Users (UUs), obviously the more users we reached, the better.
What tools do you use to engage with the audience?
At Yahoo!, we used a variety of tools to engage with our users, some included: product blogs, workshops, forums, and of course Yahoo! Groups, Yahoo! Messenger, and Yahoo! Mail!
Is there a feedback model that you use to filter issues from the community to the product team(s)? Can you share it?
Yes, as a matter of fact, I have an extremely complicated scientific method for filtering the truly hot and valuable insights from the community. Okay, just kidding. I don’t have a tried and true method for filtering feedback to ensure that only golden nuggets get passed along but I can say that it’s extremely important to have a thorough understanding of your company’s product and how its users are interacting with it. With this understanding comes a heightened sense for what issues/feedback are truly important to pass along to key stakeholders.
Does Yahoo! listen and value community feedback?
Overall, yes, at least within the groups I interacted with. That said, Yahoo! is a big company and I wouldn’t necessarily say that’s always the case across the board, but as a company, they try.
In my opinion, if a company wasn’t receptive to listening to and leveraging the insights and feedback from their users, they wouldn’t have created a community role (granted, they did recently lay off five top notch community managers). Additionally, it’s my opinion that it’s the job of an effective community manager to demonstrate the value of listening and integrating user feedback to the extent possible.
Based on my experience, the “community management” team reports into marketing. Do you think it would be of more value if it reported into the product organization(s)
Not necessarily, but I do think that it’s extremely important for a community manager to be closely aligned with the product team. I can say that I am pretty certain that if the community management team I was recently a part of reported into product instead marketing, we might just still be working at Yahoo!
What are the traits to be an effective community manager?
I think a few of the essential qualities that a community manager must possess in order to be effective are: great listening skills, excellent communication skills, patience, the ability to multi-task and of course the capability to balance business objectives with community need.
Anything else you want to share?
Well, I can definitely say that I was disappointed by Yahoo’s decision to lay off the Community Management Team that supported some of their largest products (including Groups, Mail, and Messenger). Granted I may be a little biased since I was personally affected by this decision. All in all, I am most saddened by the fact that my hard work and resulting momentum towards improving the perception of Yahoo! Groups among the Groups community for the last 20 months will quickly dissolve without continued effort.
The sentiment below, from respected Groups moderator, sums it up quite well:
Speaking from an external point of view, having your enthusiasm and energy in support of Yahoo Groups’ user community has been very effective in building a positive attitude towards Yahoo and the Groups Team.
Jami is a highly energetic Community Manager with over six years experience working with online communities. She has a natural talent to connect with users of online communities in a deep, personal and productive manner. She’s skilled at representing the voice of the community and translating need into tailored products and features.
– END OF INTERVIEW–
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dan
05. Feb, 2009
pfff … obviously they don’t value their community at all if they laid off the entire community management team. Perhaps this is why Yahoo is where it is today …
- don’t care about the community
- lack of innovation
- slow to move and get products to market
- no leadership
I actually know a lot of good people at yahoo. It’s sad to see that they are slowing dying….
yahoo
05. Feb, 2009
yahoo does not care about their community. they have a bunch of direct marketers; and all they care about is increaseing pv’s.
How do I know?
I work there.
Michael Brito
09. Feb, 2009
dan — you have great points. I am not sure what there strategy is moving forward regarding community. I know when I was there, they were pretty serious about engaging with their users.
miro slodki @twitter
24. Feb, 2009
I think we need to tone down the rhetoric.
Too many use the words community, engagement
but when pushed to the wall - they can’t connect that back to business results.
Until we have central managers become the pivot point in an organization with total oversight of a customer group and mandate to ensure profit generation, innovation, acquisition, retention and customer service, there won’t be any progress on this front.
And that evolution will not happen until there is a causal metric daisy chain we can follow.
does yahoo truly have a community? google?
if either one were to disappear tomorrow- other than than a temporary inconvenience, would anything be different?
thxs for the posting Michael
cheers
Miro
Anita
18. Aug, 2009
Just have to comment that I know Jamie personally from being in a Roundtable for part of last year. I, along with several others, got to visit the Yahoo campus and spend 3 days with them–giving out opinion of the community changes.
People have a habit of degrading Yahoo..and I think it’s very wrong. Just because you don’t agree with what Yahoo is doing, doesn’t mean you have to unprofessional about it.
If you think you can do better, then do it. But until you walk in their shoes there, you might want to lighten up a little bit.
Jamie–miss ya and hope all is well with you. Hope you were able to get married! Try to keep in touch if you can..you know where you can find us in the groups.
Michael
18. Aug, 2009
It’s nice to see Jamie seems to be doing ok. I worked with her on the last group of moderators who were working with her on improvements to the groups expereince.. she is an amazing person!
We miss you Jamie!